Some people recently prooved very low knowledge about modern music. So lets forget a second to think about the Near East and listen to the famous cooperation of Neurosis and Jarboe, live performing "Transcript of thougths of a 16-year-old pregnant girl that was raped by her father having a back-street abortion"
Nononono, not the effect of Jarboe in the Swan-case [absorbing the bands brutality and channel it onto a new lyric plain and her dominance that makes the sound look like a replica of Swans]. The news is that we now know that her permanent excuses like "Its Michael [Gira]. He has an interest in the subject of serial killers" in the case of killing children must be doubted. The whole story of that girl must be written new.
And having understood this simple thing, we can go back and understand how the two systems [Jarboe - Neurosis] can work together. Neurosis [see the "On the Hill"-example] creates a transcendental plain. Beats are giving you technical lessons how to breathe and to climb on your "own hill" [In my dreams I touch]. The Jarboe-connection was working the other way around. Neurosis is like sitting in front of the Jarboe-hill and she gives the advices what beat she now needs to express her very untranszendental thougths. I think that is the point that hurts: Nobody expected Neurosis to make music about their Mommies, a.s.o..
And a tip: Jarboe was not very lucky with the playlist. She has renumbered the playlist.
I say, it was a good try, but I hope that we will see such experiments never again. Or... Why not? Paeches and Neurosis in another "My dumps, my Humps fake?" I would like that!
Montag, 3. September 2007
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Hahaha! I agree totally. And that was my point, too. It wasn't even a collaboration, it was Jarboe trying to get something back that Gira has left in the dust, and used Neurosis to try and do it. Yeah, she was the sick one. BTW, the new Angels of Light album is really quite good, although not as good as Everything Is Good Here/Please Come Home.
Hehe...I don't know, man. At the end, he's killed the child.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EayNRh_PkBc
I don't like Jarboe. I like girls that rock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwlBIBxL2gY
Go to 2:20. There you can find the place where Jarboe stole the "exhausted breathing"-idea.
I think its way earlier than that. This is pretty recent, but the song is from like '81. She's an amalgam of Kim and Lydia Lunch. The end is important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhSjbCva8Oo
Hmmmm.... No. I think she saw/heard it in Europe. They had some strong connections to European [political experimental music] in that time. Gira was/is co-producer of some bands that have labels that share what I call the Gilles-Deleuze-connection [like Calla and Subrosa, Belgium]... aaah, it takes too much time to write an encyclopedia of all those things. You can be rigth, too. :-)
I saw them both several times in that times ... [Neurosis in a small club-athmosphere with 20 people as audience.... very special...]
Jealous! Alas, I was still going to all ages shows when the Swans came through.
Yeah, I grew up with Discord Records (Nation of Ulysses was my favorite as a kid); we didn't have to deal with all the drugs and crap. Just the horrible pretentiousness.
Grew up? I was in the twenties already. We grew up with Metallica [a.s.o]-bootlegs and at 14 my first concert was Christmas-Rock at Bad Rappenau with Ozzy Osbourne. I think it was 1982.
Tough guys. :-)
That would make you exactly ten years older than me.
My first show at 14 was Polvo and Superchunk
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